Why do ppl say Rangers are the most versatile and difficult to master? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Lykan · Aug 30, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Don't play barrage.

That is all.

[riVen] · Aug 31, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkobra

Triple shit? Must be a Beast Mastery skill.

You win this thread.

Toutatis · Aug 31, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24

My Ranger has a Necro secondary (mainly because I want to get a few more necro skills unlocked, and perhaps try out a touch build at some point). In my opinion, the Ranger doesn't particularly need to dip into a secondary profession that much as they have pretty much everything they need to be effective within their own repertoire of skills. The only thing they truly lack is any form of hex removal, and while their condition removal abilities may be limited it still gets rid of the most debilitating condition to them (blindness).

BHA is probably the most useful interruption skill in the game. If you think about it, it allows you to interrupt two enemies at once. If everyone else is pounding an enemy spellcaster, you can fire off a BHA at that target to daze it, and let everyone else's attacks keep on interrupting it. In the meantime, you can pick another target and use your other interrupt skills to harass it until the rest of the team can help you finish it off. The advantage of the bow is that you can pick any target on the field with ease; the trick is knowing which targets to hit at which times.

thor hammerbane · Aug 31, 2007, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Versalite-Yes. Expertise makes any secondary plausible for low energy skill consumption.
Difficult to master-Mesmer would probably be the most difficult to master. Most of the 'versatile' ranger build are run by people who are not able to create their own builds (bunny thumper, toucher). Nothing hard just to mash skills.

moriz · Aug 31, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16

rangers are pretty easy to play in pve, but can be difficult to be played effectively in pvp. that's probably where the "difficult to master" comment came from.

someone already mentioned the roles of a ranger in gvg. what i'm going to say is this: "it is not easy to fulfill all those roles." yes, a BA or cripshot build will give you the tool to fulfill all those roles, but how well you perform depends entirely on you. rangers are not crutch professions like the assassin or elementalist, in that what you can accomplish is largely determined by the build you run. rangers are the other way around: how it performs, depends almost entirely on you. if you are not skilled enough to play it, it will do absolutely nothing. on the otherhand, a skilfully played ranger can dominate and dictate the outcome of a battle by itself.

so in conclusion, rangers are difficult to master in pvp because of all the roles that they can fulfill demands a player who is skilled enough to make them happen.

TwinRaven · Aug 31, 2007, 04:36 AM // 04:36

Go all beastie...A good beast tanker with Enraged Lunge {E} and Predators Pounce can whack down an enemy right-quick. Personally, I'm looking for a new pet...polar bear maybe. So many people use their pets as a meatsheild that when you use one as your main attack, some folks die before they realize it.

Age · Aug 31, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19

They aren't hard to master a Warrior is harder to master as Ranger has a better self heal.They are very versatile bunny thumper or thumper,touch ranger,vimway.Then you have your assortment of farming builds.I play mostly an interrupting or trapper Ranger they get into groups easy.My elite of choice is punishing shot.

Jawn Sno · Aug 31, 2007, 04:46 PM // 16:46

and I still enjoy picking up new (to me, at least) skillls and seeing what he can do with them. I've been playing with needling shot quite a bit, and I recently added a rit secondary so I could include brutal weapon.....puts a lotta hurting on the monsters (but haven't tried it in PvP). A few months ago I was playing this guy in Sorrow's Furnace missions, trying to score some of the nice green bows (no luck there, sigh) and the hefty xp. I used a R/E build with a fiery bowsting, conjure flame, mark of rodgort, and barrage (nyahh, so what!) - flaming dwarves everywhere! That was fun.

I do agree mesmers are harder to figure out - especially the inspiration stuff.

Aug 31, 2007, 04:46 PM // 16:46	#28
Jawn Sno Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Heroes of the Horn Profession: R/E	My very first char is a ranger and I still enjoy picking up new (to me, at least) skillls and seeing what he can do with them. I've been playing with needling shot quite a bit, and I recently added a rit secondary so I could include brutal weapon.....puts a lotta hurting on the monsters (but haven't tried it in PvP). A few months ago I was playing this guy in Sorrow's Furnace missions, trying to score some of the nice green bows (no luck there, sigh) and the hefty xp. I used a R/E build with a fiery bowsting, conjure flame, mark of rodgort, and barrage (nyahh, so what!) - flaming dwarves everywhere! That was fun. I do agree mesmers are harder to figure out - especially the inspiration stuff.

Aug 30, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05	#21
Lykan Forge Runner Join Date: May 2005 Guild: StP Profession: R/	Don't play barrage. That is all.

Aug 31, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24	#23
Toutatis Walking Wiki Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Isle of Medication Guild: Visitors from Aranna [VFA] Profession: Me/E	My Ranger has a Necro secondary (mainly because I want to get a few more necro skills unlocked, and perhaps try out a touch build at some point). In my opinion, the Ranger doesn't particularly need to dip into a secondary profession that much as they have pretty much everything they need to be effective within their own repertoire of skills. The only thing they truly lack is any form of hex removal, and while their condition removal abilities may be limited it still gets rid of the most debilitating condition to them (blindness). BHA is probably the most useful interruption skill in the game. If you think about it, it allows you to interrupt two enemies at once. If everyone else is pounding an enemy spellcaster, you can fire off a BHA at that target to daze it, and let everyone else's attacks keep on interrupting it. In the meantime, you can pick another target and use your other interrupt skills to harass it until the rest of the team can help you finish it off. The advantage of the bow is that you can pick any target on the field with ease; the trick is knowing which targets to hit at which times.

Aug 31, 2007, 02:06 AM // 02:06	#24
thor hammerbane Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dark Side of the Moon Guild: Fat Kids Are Hard To Kid[nap]	Versalite-Yes. Expertise makes any secondary plausible for low energy skill consumption. Difficult to master-Mesmer would probably be the most difficult to master. Most of the 'versatile' ranger build are run by people who are not able to create their own builds (bunny thumper, toucher). Nothing hard just to mash skills.

Aug 31, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16	#25
moriz ??ber t??k-n??sh'??n Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Profession: R/	rangers are pretty easy to play in pve, but can be difficult to be played effectively in pvp. that's probably where the "difficult to master" comment came from. someone already mentioned the roles of a ranger in gvg. what i'm going to say is this: "it is not easy to fulfill all those roles." yes, a BA or cripshot build will give you the tool to fulfill all those roles, but how well you perform depends entirely on you. rangers are not crutch professions like the assassin or elementalist, in that what you can accomplish is largely determined by the build you run. rangers are the other way around: how it performs, depends almost entirely on you. if you are not skilled enough to play it, it will do absolutely nothing. on the otherhand, a skilfully played ranger can dominate and dictate the outcome of a battle by itself. so in conclusion, rangers are difficult to master in pvp because of all the roles that they can fulfill demands a player who is skilled enough to make them happen.

Aug 31, 2007, 04:36 AM // 04:36	#26
TwinRaven Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	Go all beastie...A good beast tanker with Enraged Lunge {E} and Predators Pounce can whack down an enemy right-quick. Personally, I'm looking for a new pet...polar bear maybe. So many people use their pets as a meatsheild that when you use one as your main attack, some folks die before they realize it.

Aug 31, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19	#27
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	They aren't hard to master a Warrior is harder to master as Ranger has a better self heal.They are very versatile bunny thumper or thumper,touch ranger,vimway.Then you have your assortment of farming builds.I play mostly an interrupting or trapper Ranger they get into groups easy.My elite of choice is punishing shot.